The Quiet Power of Paying Attention

Last week, I had the joy of being in conversation with Joline Lenz on her podcast—a space devoted to creativity, connection, and courage.

We talked about the unfolding of my journey—from corporate communications to mixed media art, from ambition to presence, from giving up a six-figure title to reclaiming a paintbrush during nap time.

We talked about what happens when life forces you to pause, and how sometimes the mud our children make on hardwood floors can become the very medium that saves us.

Joline and I found unexpected kinship in this conversation—two women who’ve chosen to pay attention: to what hurts, to what heals, to the things we’ve been told we’re not allowed to want.

We spoke about creativity as a form of kindness, about procrastination as a portal, and about why I always carry watercolor supplies—even to a surgeon’s waiting room.

If you’ve ever said, “I’m not creative,” or felt stuck in the shoulds of who you’re supposed to be, this episode might offer a gentle nudge back to yourself.

🎧 Listen to our conversation below.

Let it remind you that it’s okay to go slow. It’s okay to make a mess. And it’s more than okay to give yourself grace.